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Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:42:00 -
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Hey yall I've played this game now nearly a year and have seen amazing things take place both good and bad. I for one am all for the cut throat nature of EVE. It's the only old school mmo that seperates the adults from the children. If CCP were to come in and start changing things like this I feel it would ruin the nature of the game and many people would stop playing.
That being said what happens in-game should stay in game. Plain and simple. And its easy to say, oh the guy was an idiot for not noticing the scam. I agree, but what if that happened to one of your family members. What if while you were afk your child decided to play with daddy's computer and when you came back that recording was the type of stuff being said to your child. As a community we are a cut throat bunch of theives that mine tears. But that ends the second CCP no longer has their stamp on it.
I belong to a group that actyively attempts to seek out and help new members without scams. Because like it or not they are the future of eve. This game will die without them and allowing this type of behavior will ruin this game for all of us. Should they change the way eve works absolutely not. They should take action against those individuals who harass players outside of game regardless of the circumstances that led to the harassement.
Don't allow this behavior to happen. contact the devs and give them your thoughts, than wait and see what happens to Erotica1.
Snitches Out |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:04:00 -
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oh if there are new people on here come to haoula to learn how to play eve the right way but blowin $h!t up.
snitches out |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:19:00 -
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I wonder what the members of the westboro baptist church would have to say about all of these shenanigans? |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..? Yes. A widot guy already answered the "why" part many pages ago, yet people keep asking. Sohkar could have won if he made it through the gauntlet without failing. The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big. Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them.
if that's the case erotica why don't you show the world that your legit and not a scam? allow the ever community to see what you do? |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:35:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Silvara Nocturn wrote:All this could not have happened without eve assets so its not entirely out of game. I think ccp could make a case for this if they want to take action.
This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked. Ahem... "nuked". From where? Orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
game over man game over |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:40:00 -
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Berendas wrote:I can't believe this thread has surpassed 70 pages. Sohkar was a fool and payed for it, as is EVE's way. The humiliation, or "bullying" as some of you insist on calling it, only came about as a consequence of his own willful actions. Sohkar is the only person at fault, for being unfamiliar with the rules of EVE. Erotica 1 did nothing more than separate the chaff from the wheat.
The number of people who have this nanny-minded view of EVE is simply staggering. Why should a player get banned because his/her actions reached an arbitrarily designated frustration threshold in another player? Should every player that gets on my lossmails be banned if I can muster up a certain degree of anger about it?
"A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions."
This excerpt from the official EVE knowledge base should be the beginning and end of the entire discussion.
I find it interesting how people justify his actions regardless of them being allowed or not by game policy yet these same individuals would have probally acted in the same fashion had this happened to them.
food for thought the the german populous drank the **** koolaid to and look what it got them. just because something is legally okay doesn't make it morally right. |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:46:00 -
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Snitches Laden wrote:Berendas wrote:I can't believe this thread has surpassed 70 pages. Sohkar was a fool and payed for it, as is EVE's way. The humiliation, or "bullying" as some of you insist on calling it, only came about as a consequence of his own willful actions. Sohkar is the only person at fault, for being unfamiliar with the rules of EVE. Erotica 1 did nothing more than separate the chaff from the wheat.
The number of people who have this nanny-minded view of EVE is simply staggering. Why should a player get banned because his/her actions reached an arbitrarily designated frustration threshold in another player? Should every player that gets on my lossmails be banned if I can muster up a certain degree of anger about it?
"A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions."
This excerpt from the official EVE knowledge base should be the beginning and end of the entire discussion. I find it interesting how people justify his actions regardless of them being allowed or not by game policy yet these same individuals would have probally acted in the same fashion had this happened to them. food for thought the the german populous drank the **** koolaid to and look what it got them. just because something is legally okay doesn't make it morally right.
okay for whatever reason ccp censors ****... so let me say national socialist party |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:51:00 -
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fudface wrote:+1 for jester for trying but i dont think it will change anything. The crucial thing with this is the victim is a willing participant.
Personally i think its total madness to give all your stuff over to another player you dont know and trust regardless of the reason.
i only managed to listen to around 8 minutes before i was shaking my head and thinking no one is THAT blind to the obvious,
i know gamblers who cant help chasing their losses until they are totally broke. its human stupidity and greed that is being exploited here.
i mean come on, if it looks like easy money then you are the one creating the easy money.
my 1 isk worth.
if a woman goes to a club gets drunk and raped is she a willing participant because she was naieve to her surroundings? |

Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:56:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Hmmm, I got spanked by CCP for creating a new thread to post this, and in retrospect I should have just used this original thread :) Here's some thoughts on today's hot topic!
So, I am a pretty avid Eve player, and have been for quite some time. My girlfriend is not a player, but we talk a whole bunch and she does enjoy hearing stories about our little universe we have here, and today we were talking about the recent forum activity and SoundCloud recording of Erotica1 doing what he does best.
Now, before this entire conversation took place - I really was on the "This is our sandbox, I don't want CCP wasting any time adding systems to the game that limit what we as players can do." To be honest, I still am.
But, after this whole conversation: there's a part that I don't agree with - and my mind has been changed on this. In this situation: Erotica1 engaged in scamming someone out of a bunch of internet spaceships and e-gold or whatever we call it. I'm fine with that. The only part that I find fault with is baiting the player into taking his tasteless RL threats (I'll kill your mother, racist slurs, homophobic slurs) from a private Teamspeak server into game, thus resulting in the person being scammed being able to be subjected to action by CCP).
The "victim" was wrong to take things that far, and to make real life threats: but we have to really understand a bit about human nature here. Erotica1 and pirates all over (myself included!) will tell you how vital it is to have a thick skin, but I think we need to lead by example and have the same think skin - some of these noobies we blow up or scam are not really the Eve type, and they have yet to learn to control the part of their brain that should stop with "Good fight." or "lol gf" into the kind of epic screaming table pounding mom-threatening stuff we heard in the recent soundcloud recording. When I personally encounter this kind of behavior, my old reaction was to automatically report them to CCP for EULA violations. I won't be doing that anymore - I am going to HTFU and understand that for less experienced players, human nature is going to take over sometimes and they are going to say and do things that are really silly and over and top.
On a side note - I am proud to be part of this universe today. Any online game that sparks a wonderful 2 hour discussion between adults about morality, human nature, griefing and bullying is the kind of game that I want to be playing.
stop reading my mind son :) couldn't have said it better myself
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Snitches Laden
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Posted - 2014.03.26 01:06:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:
By bent, I obviously mean "crooked".
No such word as crooked. And I find the assertation that you have friends to be highly dubious. Synonyms for bent angled arced arched bowed contorted crookedI have many friends :) Would you like to be one? Sorry, DENIED! Sentamon wrote:Dude is freaking out over $20? Hopefully he sees a mental health professional. If you think its the 20bucks he's freaking over, and not how he is being treated, it might be you who hopefully sees a mental health professional.
I have come to find that through life many people you run into are selfish morons who only care about themselves and could never be empathetic toward others. to them I say farewell and goodnight. |
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